世界已停止运转了 The world has stopped turning.
一件我们许久没见过的事情 For days now something has been happening
已经发生有些日子了 that we haven't seen for a long time.
新闻和社交网络，报纸的头条 News and social networks, the front page of newspapers
都不再聚焦邪恶的事情 are not focusing on evil anymore,
而是传播福音 but on good.
不是战争和恐怖主义，而是爱 Not on war and terrorism, but on love.
这一切都要归功于教皇庇护 And all of this thanks to Pius the
十三世那些令人肝肠寸断的情书 13th's heartbreaking love letters.
世人为之动容 The world has stopped turning.
这些情书令人动容，人们开始畅谈爱情 The world has stopped turning. To talk about love.
圣父大人 Holy Father,
您之前向梵蒂冈新闻办公室批准过的那次觐见 you accorded an audience to the head of the Vatican press office.
她正在外面等待 She's outside waiting.
你确定吗 Are you sure?
圣父，意大利总理继续推迟 Holy Father, the Italian Prime Minister is continuing to postpone
对梵蒂冈和民事结合进行征税法案的指定 legislation on taxing the Vatican and civil unions.
他的左翼支持者要我们付出代价 His left-wing supporters are calling for blood.
他们许多人声称你是幕后黑手 Many of them claim that you are behind this,
你是让总理改变了主意的人 that you are the man who changed the Prime Minister's mind.
-我也在想着同样的事 -可能事实就是如此 - And I think the same thing. - That might be the case.
-你是如何做到的 -我羞辱了他 - How did you do it? - I humiliated him.
你无法想象通过羞辱你的一个同胞 You have no idea how many objectives can be obtained
能实现多少目标 by humiliating ones fellow man.
-但是有个秘诀 -是什么 - But there's a secret to it. - What is it?
被羞辱的那个人不能意识到他被羞辱了 The person humiliated can't realize they'd been humiliated.
如果你不介意我这么说的话，你是恶魔 If you don't mind my saying so, you're diabolical.
你这样觉得？那些了解我的人 You think? People that know me well
都说我其实是个圣人 actually say that I'm a saint.
和莫斯科大主教的会面怎么样 How did it go with the Patriarch of Moscow?
莫斯科的大主教 The Patriarch of Moscow
简直比看电视高尔夫球赛还无聊 is more boring than watching golf on television.
下一个需要做的决策是什么 So what is our next set of decisions?
你还记得在星期三 Do you remember that on Wednesday
你承诺过要在梵蒂冈博物馆 you promised to act as a tour guide
为三年级学生的实地考察做一次导游 in the Vatican museums for a third-grade field trip?
万能的主呀，我种了啥恶果 God Almighty, what atrocity can I
才会遭到如此折磨 have committed to deserve that?
我不知道能否如约前去 I don't know if I'll able to make that appointment,
周三我要在电视上看高尔夫球赛 on Wednesday I have to watch golf on TV.
圣父大人，你不想让 Holy Father, you don't want to
那些孩子失望，对吧 disappoint the children, do you?
女士，是孩纸们会让我失望好吗 Ma'am, it's the children who have disappointed me.
难道你不喜欢你的童年生活吗？ Didn't you like your childhood?
我所能记起的童年 All I remember of my childhood it
在某一天，我的童年在也不复存在了。 is one day it wasn't there anymore.
衣夹 Clothes pin.
你觉得大卫·塔尼斯通的声明， Have we found any confirmation
有任何可信的地方吗？ for David Tanistone's statements?
我觉得有 I would say so.
他母亲和科特威尔主教有过一段暂短的恋情。 His mother had a brief affair with Archbishop Kurtwell
当时他们一同就读于天主教大学。 when they were both attending Catholic University
就在华盛顿特区 in Washington D.C.
后来他们各奔东西了 Then they drifted apart.
她，做了一个虔诚的天主教徒该做的事。 She, like the devout Catholic that she is,
决定把他的儿子生出来。 decided to give birth to her son.
几年后由于陷入了 After a few years and oppressed by the grim economic straits
严峻的经济困难的境地。 into which she had drifted,
她决定去找科特维尔寻求帮助。 she decided to turn to Kurtwell for help.
科特维尔就是这样认识他的。 Which is how Kurtwell came to know him.
但是同时他的人品和声誉也受到了 But in the meanwhile, a veritable earthquake
毁灭性的撼动。 had devastated that man's personality
丑闻也直接影响到了 and the rubble from it collapsed
这个年轻人。 directly onto that young man.
余下的故事，我们只能去问科特威尔了。 For the rest of the story, we'll have to ask Kurtwell.
我想要略微地做些改动。 I intend to shake things up a little,
我希望你能成为我的私人秘书。 and I would like to have you become my personal secretary.
玛丽修女，已经完成了她的使命，而现在 Sister Mary has completed her mission and now,
理所当然的，她想另谋高就了。 justifiably, she wants to move on.
-她的使命已经完成了吗？ -是的 - She's completed her mission? - Yes.
孩童教宗已经成人。 The child Pope has become a man.
他以前需要母爱的存在， He once needed a motherly presence,
但现在他需要的是一个同事。 and he now needs a colleague.
你觉得我的提议怎么样？ What do you think of my proposal?
我无法接受。 That I can't accept.
为什么不？ Why not?
因为我接受了就太虚伪了。 Because it would be hypocritical.
-有什么虚伪的 -我是同 - What's hypocritical about it? - I'm a hom...
我是同性恋，圣父大人。 I'm a homosexual, Holy Father.
而您想把所有的同性恋都从教会中驱逐出去。 And you want to expel all homosexuals from the Church.
凡事都有例外 Every rule has its exceptions.
但我无法接受 But I don't subscribe to the
你为我而开的例外。 exception that you'd make for me.
我并不赞成这种规定。 I don't subscribe to the rule.
不接受同性恋是一个巨大的错误。 It's a huge mistake not to accept homosexuals.
你那样拿他们跟恋童癖作比较 It's a huge mistake to compare them
也是巨大的错误。 to pedophiles, the way you do.
简直是无法接受的泛泛之谈。 An unacceptable generalization.
你怎么能无法看清？偏偏是你，圣父大人。 How can you fail to see, you of all people, Holy Father,
你，那些让人肝肠寸断的情书的作者。 you, the author of those heartbreaking love letters,
在恋童癖的生活里，只会有暴力。 that in pedophilia there is only violence,
在同性恋者的生活里，只有爱，难道不是吗？ and in homosexuality there's only love?
你说你不想做我的私人秘书。 You say you don't want to be my personal secretary,
但是事实上，你已经在尽这份职责了。 but, in actual fact, you're already doing the job.
你为我谏言 You offer me some advice.
那不正是私人秘书应该做的吗？ And that's what a personal secretary does.
但是现在，我不再满足于只是谏言。 But in this case, I don't just want to give the advice.
我希望你能同意 I want you to accept it.
我忍受了多少事啊，古铁雷斯，但是没人能察觉 How many things I accept, Gutierrez, and no one notices!
那就是教宗的宿命，那就是掌权也要付出的代价。 That's a Pope's fate. That's the fate of power.
设想一下 Try to reason with me:
如果我要你来做我的私人秘书。 If I ask you to be my personal secretary,
我也不准备改变 am I not already revising my own
我对同性恋的偏见。 beliefs about homosexuality?
你真的认为 Or do you actually believe I knew
我对你的性取向一无所知吗？ nothing about your homosexuality?
亦或是你孩童时代受到的性虐待的事实。 Or the fact that you were sexually abused as a child?
我都知道，那就是我派你去调查科特威尔丑闻的原因。 I knew that, too. That's why I sent you to Kurtwell.
也正是现在我想要你来铺佐我的原因。 That's why I now want you working by my side.
因为我们要去勾画未来。 Because we need to work on the future.
你需要有正确的动机， You need the right motivations
而你恰恰拥有。 to do that and you have those.
正确的动机，可以改变世界。 The right motivations can move the world.
你变了。 You changed.
那次旅行回来，以后你就变了。 Since you came back from your trip.
怎么了呢？ In what way have I changed?
你将恐惧化为愤怒。 You've transformed fear into anger.
非常好，古铁雷斯。 Very good, Gutierrez.
非常好 Very good.
我恳求你 I beg of you,
告诉我。 confide in me...
你所学过的最睿智的道理。 the wisest thing you have ever learned.
到头来 In the end,
比起上帝，相信你自己 more than in God, it is necessary
才是最重要的，莱尼 to believe in yourself, Lenny.
请问你有什么 Have you got something...
更好的建议吗？ a little better?
这就是些陈词滥调。 That's a banal platitude.
要是你真的明白这些陈词滥调，有多么正确就好了。 If only you knew how true a banal platitude can be,
我亲爱的同事 my dear colleague.
毕竟，看看我们，我们就是掌权者。 After all, look at us, we are power.
而权利，就是这些陈词滥调。 And power is a banal platitude.
我们只会合作一天，教宗大人。 We will be dealing with you one day, Your Holiness.
你这是什么意思 What do you mean?
您要成为一名圣人了，我是非常认真的。 You're going to be a saint! I'm perfectly serious.
我不需要自己在职业生涯里还有上升的空间。 I don't need any more steps in my career.
您的祈祷，教宗大人，您的祈祷能够感动上帝。 Your prayers, Holy Father, your prayers move God.
什么时候？ When?
让我们暂时只关注事实， Let's stick to the facts and skip the memorable account
暂时忽略你十四岁的所作所为。 of what you did at age fourteen
那间病房里，托管人的妻子病重 in the room of the gravely sick wife of the custodian
却突然痊愈。 who was suddenly cured.
现在，还有一些显而易见的事实。 Now then, here are the simple facts.
埃斯特和皮特都患有不育症。 Esther and Peter were infertile, sterile, barren.
那位年轻的女人信任你，而你，圣父大人。 The young woman confided in you. And you, Holy Father,
并没有像其他人一样告诉她。 you didn't tell her to do what anyone else would have said:
去看医生。 Go see a doctor.
恰恰相反，您为他祈祷。 No, instead Your Holiness prayed
埃思特因此怀孕， and Esther became pregnant and
并且生下一个美丽的孩子。 she gave birth a beautiful child.
与此同时，我们也看出来了，安东尼亚修女， Moreover, it became clear that Sister Antonia was actually
事实上是一位卑劣的女人，一个作恶者。 an unworthy woman, an evildoer.
你明明有能力解雇她 And you had the power to remove her from her position,
有能力惩罚她 you had the power to punish her,
你所需要做的就是签署一份文件 all you had to do was to sign a document,
但是相反，你没有那么做。 but instead, you chose not to do that.
你选择在雨中祈祷 Instead you chose to pray in the rain,
在高速公路上的服务区，跪在沥青上祈祷。 kneeling on the asphalt at a rest stop on the highway,
并且就在那瞬间，安东尼娅修女 and at that moment Sister Antonia
遭到了上天的惩罚，永远地被驱逐。 shuffled off the stage thanks to a divine punishment.
现在，这些是圣人该做的事。 Now, these are the things that saints do.
他们被这种信仰如此撼动着，他们信仰上帝。 They are moved by a faith so solid that they believe in God,
在他们相信人类的力量之前 in the power of God,
就相信上帝的力量 before they believe in the power of human beings.
正如你所见，教宗大人，奇迹更有可能发生。 As you see, Holy Father, miracles are more likely to happen.
我们只需留心倾听。 We only need to keep our ears open.
-你会经常留心倾听神圣的胡安娜吗？ -是的。 Are your ears always open for the Blessed Juana? - Always.
十五岁时， When she was fifteen she went to
她去医院探望孩子 see the children at the hospital
总是带着橘子。 and always brought tangerines with her.
她并不在意那些孩子们吃不吃 And she didn't care whether they ate them or not.
但是她想让孩子们剥开果皮 But she wanted them to peel them
挤压着橘皮玩 and to play at squeezing the peels,
相互喷溅着汁液 and spray each other with the bright
难忘的美妙果香。 and unforgettable scent of that fruit.
然后她会告诉孩子们 :Then she told the children:
我将离你远去，你也将与我渐行渐远。 I will go away from you and you will go away from me,
但是这些都不重要 but it doesn't matter,
因为我们留给这个世界的， because all that we left on this
只有善意的香气。 earth is the scent of goodness.
我可以毫不厌倦的一直听下去。 I could listen for hours.
这个故事告诉我们一些重要的道理。 This story tells us something important.
什么 What?
善意，除非是与想象相结合 That goodness, unless it's combined with imagination,
只需要承担被展现的风险。 runs the risk of being mere exhibitionism.
多么正确 多么正确 How true! How true!
如果你想知道有关神圣的胡安娜的一切。 If you want to know everything about the Blessed Juana,
有一个可以 there's a wonderful opportunity
充分利用的好机会 that we could take advantage of.
你看，每一个圣诞节，那些曾身临奇迹 You see, every Christmas, the miracle children,
现在已经五十多岁了的孩子们， who are now in their fifties,
聚集在瓜地马拉市的广场 gather at a plaza in Guatemala City
告诉世人，他们神奇的被治愈的故事。 and tell the story of their miracle cures.
我曾参加过 I've attended and it was
那是段非常难忘的回忆。 a very moving and unforgettable experience.
我是说，所有的人都应该因为你的光临而欢呼雀跃。 I mean, everyone would be overjoyed to have you there.
-你是在建议我今年圣诞节在瓜地马拉度过吗？ -是的。 Are you suggesting I spend my Christmas in Guatemala? - Yes.
这会是十分难忘的。 It would be a memorable gesture.
好吧，那就这么定了，我们要去瓜地马拉了。 All right, then, we'll go to Guatemala.
要清楚，那将是一次小型的私人聚会 On the understanding that it will be a small and private
没有拥挤的人群，没有媒体。 get-together, without crowds and without press.
只有我们和那些神迹儿童。 Just us and the miracle children.
一切以您的意愿为主。 It will all be exactly as you wish.
好吧，孩子们。 All right, children,
今天我们要参观梵蒂冈博物馆 today we are going on tour of the Vatican Museums
我将担任你们的导游 and I am gonna be your tour guide.
刚才还在下雪，现在又开始下雨了 Earlier it was snowing. Now it's raining.
太遗憾了。 Too bad!
下雪可比下雨好，对不对？ Snow is so much nicer than rain, isn't it?
是 Yes.
但是现在下雨， But if it's raining, that can only
只能说明你们都是坏孩子。 mean you've been bad children.
-为什么？ -为什么？ - Why? - Why?
因为雨滴是基督的眼泪。 Because raindrops are the tears of Christ.
如果耶稣在哭泣， And if Jesus is crying, that can
就说明你们惹怒他了。 only mean you've made him angry.
为什么 Why...
嗨，我是在开玩笑， Hey, I was just kidding, have a
幽默感呢，天哪 sense of humor, for Pete's sake!
好了，孩子们，接下来这样 All right, children, here's what we'll do.
现在我们去吃汉堡和薯条。 Right now we're all going to eat hamburgers and French fries
吃完午餐后，继续我们的博物馆之行。 and after lunch we'll continue our tour of the museums.
跟着我 Follow me!
你不去吃去吃汉堡和薯条吗 Aren't you going to eat hamburgers and French fries?
我妈妈想让我严格遵守地中海饮食 My mommy wants me to stick to the Mediterranean diet.
我理解 I understand.
我不想要一个留胡子的妈妈 I don't want a mommy with a beard.
你得学会知足常乐 You need to learn to settle for what you get.
我不想这么轻易满足 I don't want to settle.
你说的对 You're right.
我也不想再这么安分下去了 I don't want to settle anymore, either.
你还好吗 How are you?
谁，我吗 Who, me?
我永远都有好心情 I'm always in a good mood.
我总是把乐天和愚昧联系起来。 I've always associated good mood with stupidity.
而且没有任何原因，圣父大人 And not without reason, Your Holiness.
然而你无法想象乐天和愚昧。 However you can't imagine the amount of energy that comes
是多么能使人获益 from good mood and stupidity.
你想告诉我什么 What did you want to tell me?
我想通过期刊进行一个关于您的民调。 I wanted to update you on a survey in the magazine.
天主教宇宙， Catholic Universe" that I've been
我已经出版它八年了。 "publishing for eight years.
关于什么的民调 What is it about?
我们向不同群体的人们发问 We asked a question to a mixed group of people:
他们是否想参加教皇面对面进行的布道仪式 If they'd like to attend a sermon of the Pope face to face.
-有多少愿意的？ -99%的天主教徒都愿意 - How many? - 99% of all Catholics.
这会改变什么吗 And would this change things?
不，圣父大人，这不会改变任何事情 No, Your Holiness. It wouldn't change things.
教宗不会去改变人们 A Pope doesn't change people.
好，你使我更加坚信了 Well, then you're confirming that there is
我没有理由，要在公众面前露面。 no good reason for me to appear in public.
不，实际上是有的，有个理由。 No, actually yes, there is a reason.
是什么理由？ And what would that be?
如果你在公众面前露面 If you appear in public,
这会使他们保持欣喜愉悦。 it would help these people to be in a good mood.
-我可不是一个喜剧演员。 -这不重要 - I'm not a comedian. - That doesn't matter.
重要的是你出现 It's the show of being there that
能使世人快乐。 helps people to be in a good mood.
这个不是我的使命 That's not my duty.
不，不，这是的。 Yes. Yes, it is.
圣父大人 Your Holiness...
自从你成了教宗后你变了许多 You've changed a lot since you began your papacy.
痛苦使人改变，阿格雷 Affliction changes us, Aguirre.
但是愉悦的心情不会 But good mood doesn't.
从圣伯多禄手中接过戒指吧 Accipe anulum de manu Petri
你所有的爱都需爱那使徒王子 et noveris dilectione Principis Apostolorum dilectionem tuam
并为教会尽忠 erga Ecclesiam roborari.
阿门 Amen.
你的手怎么了，主教阁下 What happened to your hands, our Eminence?
啊，圣父大人 Oh, Holy Father...
我在阿拉斯加和人们做露天弥撒的时候冻伤的 The cold in Alaska, when I say Mass in the open air.
你没有尝试用护肤霜吗 Haven't you tried using skin creams?
我过敏 I'm allergic.
而且我有点风湿 And then there is the rheumatism.
看起来就像是被钉在十字架上的基督的手 These look like the hands of Christ on the cross.
上帝保佑你，圣父大人 God blesses you, Holy Father.
我甚至连一个杯子都拿不住了 I can't even hold a glass any more.
那个男人的名字是杰克·瓦尔泽 That man's name was Jack Walser,
在离家去响应主教的号召之前 he was the superintendent of the building where we lived,
他是我们公寓的管理员 before the Lord called me to Him.
他将租客分为两类 He had divided the tenants into two categories,
当地人和游民 the natives and the nomads.
我家庭属于游民那一类 My family belonged to the category of the nomads,
因为我们没有足够的钱 because we didn't have enough money to ensure
不能过上当地人稳定的生活 the stabilityenjoyed by the natives.
一天，杰克在上午十点按响了我家的门铃 One day, Jack rang our door bell at ten in the morning,
确认我有没有去学校 confident that I would be at school.
但是那天我发烧了，躺在床上 But that day I was at home in bed with fever.
我房间的门是开的 The door to my room was open
他在我父亲听广播时坐的小沙发上 and he stretched out on the little sofa where my father sat
瘫坐了下来 when he listened to the radio.
穿着湿衣的他，洇湿了沙发。 He drenched it with his wet clothes.
然后他，他告诉我说， And he, he told me that the party
我们游民的狂欢已经结束了 was over for us nomads that,
房东决定将租金加倍 that landlords had decided to double the rent.
他的表现就像是在 And he said it as if he had something good,
告诉我们一条喜讯 something fragrant in his mouth.
然后他做手势让我靠近一点， And then he gestured for me to come
并且说 closer and he said to me,
是用了一种，我此生从未耳闻过的语气说道 in a tone of voice I'd never heard in my life, he said:
跪下 "On your knees".
最后 At last...
他说了我这辈子听过的最粗俗的话 he said the most vulgar phrase I've ever heard in my life.
他说 He said:
人们下跪的原因 "There are only two reasons a human
只有两种 being would get down on his knees."
一种是祈祷，一种是为了认清自己 And one is to pray, and the other is to know himself.
我当时只有十二岁，圣父大人 I was only twelve years old, Holy Father.
我只有十二岁 I was twelve years old!
你得继续说下去，主教大人 You need to continue, Archbishop.
你的故事还没有完 Your story isn't finished yet.
你，你还想知道什么 What... What else do you want to know?
后来发生了什么 What happened afterward?
你想知道我长大成人之后 You want to know whether I, as
是否会变得和杰克·瓦尔泽一样 an adult, became like Jack Walser.
没错，这就是你所关心的一切 Certainly, that's all you care about.
这根本就不干你的事，对吧 What do you care about that twelve-year-old boy on his knees
一个12岁孩子在湿身人面前下跪 in front of a man with wet clothes
在1955年2月的那寒冷的一天 on a chilly day in February in 1955!
我们在乎，主教大人，我们在乎所有的孩子 We care, Archbishop, about all children.
所有的人 All of them.
好吧 Fine.
那我们继续吧 Let's get on with it.
是的，圣父大人 Yes, Holy Father,
在我随后的人生里 for the rest of my life...
我变成了杰克·瓦尔泽那种恶徒 I've behaved like Jack Walser.
你听够了吗 Can that be enough?
到这儿来，主教大人 Come here, Archbishop.
我决定 I've made my decision.
我决定让你返回美国 I'm sending you back to the United States.
-你想让我去哪儿 -纽约 - Where do you want to go? - To New York.
我想回家 I want to go home.
好的 Fine.
圣父大人，您真是悲悯无尽 Holy Father, infinite is your compassion.
宽容无尽 Infinite is your capacity for forgiveness.
我有个小小的请求 I have one simple request.
什么都行，圣父大人 Anything, Your Holiness.
我想要确定，你是真的想要回家 I wanna make sure you really do wanna go home.
所以我想要你在这个地球仪上指出纽约的位置 So I want you to plant your finger on New York on the globe.
凯奇坎·阿拉斯加 Kechikan, Alaska.
我知道这个地方 I know the place.
非常棒 Very nice.
一个只有八千人口的城市 A small town of 8,000 inhabitants
冷得能冻掉你的手指 that's so cold that it'll split your fingers.
但是诺贝尔奖得主布罗茨基说过 But in the words of the Nobel laureate Brodsky:
低温下的美才是真的美 "Beauty at low temperatures is beauty".
科特威尔大主教，你的冻伤误导了你 Archbishop Kurtwell, your disease has deceived you.
有一个传言， There's a rumor going around that
说我要离开梵蒂冈 I'm about to leave the Vatican.
你必须承认这些在梵蒂冈流传的谣言 You have to admit the rumors that circulate in the Vatican
大多数有事实根据 almost always correspond to the truth.
我能去哪儿呢 Where will I go?
哪个地方是你一直想去的 Where you've always wanted to be.
和孩子们一起 With children.
你是个孤儿 You're an orphan.
孤儿永远想要跟小孩子们呆在一起 Orphans want to stay with children forever.
你是怎么知道我是孤儿的 How do you know I'm an orphan?
我一直都知道 I've always known.
你怎么知道的 How do you know?
对一个圣人来说 It's difficult,for a saint,
解答所有凡人的问题，总是很难的 to answer all the questions of humanity.
我能再叫回你莱尼吗 Can I start calling you Lenny again?
除非你让我叫你嬷嬷 Only if I can call you Ma.
是的，你可以叫我嬷嬷 Yes, you can call me Ma.
我会去哪儿？ Where will I go?
去非洲，去接管安东尼娅的地方 To Africa, to take Sister Antonia's place.
在那儿，你会负责 And there you will be in charge of
其它250个慈善村。 the other 250 Villages of Goodness.
我想为孩子们专门建立慈善村 I'd like to open new ones just for the children.
你认为怎么样 What do you think?
是个不错的想法 I think it's a good idea.
最终我们都要回到开始的地方 In the end, we all have to go back to where we began.
而你，什么时候才会回到你开始的地方呢 And you, when will you go back to where you began?
我从哪儿开始呢 Where did I begin?
你开始于一对嬉皮父母 You began with two hippie parents.
我不再寻找我的父母了 I've stopped searching for my parents.
-也不再寻找上帝了 -永远不要再说这样的话 - I've stopped searching for God. - Never say that again.
事实是你从来没有找寻过 The truth is you've never searched.
你一直在隐藏你自己 You've been hiding yourself.
-你想要我什么时候离开 -明天早上 - When do you want me to leave? - Tomorrow morning.
如果你愿意的话，走之前 Before you go, if you like,
你可以去和圣座国务卿告别 you can say goodbye to the Cardinal Secretary of State.
再见，圣人 So long, saint.
再见，嬷嬷 So long, Ma.
圣父大人，你不舒服吗 Your Holiness, don't you feel well?
没有，只是刚才有些不舒服 No, no. Just a passing discomfort.
需要我叫医生来吗 - Should I call the doctor?
不用，没有那么严重 - No, no, no, it's nothing serious.
没事了 It's over.
你确定不需要我叫一位医生过来看看吗 Are you certain you don't want me to call the doctor?
不用了，我好多了 All better now.
你相信上帝吗 Do you believe in God?
是的，我相信 I... yes, I do.
我不相信 I don't.
信仰上帝的人别无他求 Those who believe in God don't believe anything.
你已经知道 You already knew I had
我早已爱上那个女人了，不是吗 fallen in love with that woman, didn't you?
你当然知道 Of course you knew it.
对你来说我是张透明的白纸 I'm an open book to you.
我们再次在这儿讨论同样的问题 And here we are again at the same age-old question:
谁说过一个男人不能同时 Who ever said that a man can't love
爱着主和女人 God and a woman at the same time?
胡说八道 That's bullshit.
有件事我一直没想明白 There's one thing I've never understood about you:
你是和你父亲一样，是个拉齐奥球迷 Whether you're a Lazio fan like your father
还是和我一样支持那不勒斯 or whether you root for Napoli like I do.
你没搞清楚重点 You're unclear on this point.
什么 What?
你想知道托尼诺·皮托拉怎么了 You want to know what became of Tonino Pettola?
听着，托尼诺·皮托拉，其实 Look, well... Tonino Pettola... what happened is that...
天啊，太可怕了 Jesus, what an unseemly thing!
我不想这样，但是教宗 I didn't want to, but the Pope...
基本上，托尼诺·皮…… Basically, Tonino Pe...
噢上帝呀，我差点告诉你了 Oh God, I was about to tell you!
不，我的朋友，你一定要原谅我，但是我…… No, my friend. You'll have to forgive me. But I...
我不能告诉任何人托尼诺·皮托拉怎么了 I can't tell anyone what became of Tonino Pettola.
原谅我，但我甚至不能告诉你 Forgive me, but I can't even tell you,
告诉我最好的朋友 and you're my best friend.
有些秘密是如此重要 There are certain secrets so important
只有一个人知道才最好 that only one person should know them.
不要因此怨恨我 Don't resent me for this.
我爱你就像对我未来的儿子一样 I love you like the son I never had.
但是我不能告诉你托尼诺·皮托拉怎么了 But I can never reveal to you what became of Tonino Pettola.
圣诞快乐，吉罗拉莫 Merry Christmas, Girolamo.
你知道吗，你是对的 You know? You were right.
当一个孤儿走向成熟 When an orphan matures, he may
他会发现一个全新而年轻的自我 discover a fresh youth within.
在那时，他就有话想说了 And at that point, he will have something to say.
你有什么事情想说 You have something to say,
我知道的，我感觉到了，你会说出来的 I know it, I feel it, and you will say it.
圣父大人，你会说出来的 Your Holiness, you will say it...
你会说出来的 you'll say it.
你会说出来的 You will say it.
你会说出来的（2遍） You'll say it. You'll say it.
你会说出来的（n遍） You'll say it, you'll say it,
你会说出来的（n遍） you will say it, you'll say it,
你会说出来的（n遍） you'll say it, you'll say it, you'll say it.
你的家庭非常严厉、非常显赫、非常友爱 You have a very tight family, Eminence, very affectionate.
这是个令人愉快的平安夜 It has been a lovely Christmas Eve.
圣父大人，我可以擅自 May I be indiscreet, Your Holiness?
说一些关于您的事情吗？ And say something that concerns you personally?
-可以 -你的父母在你还是个孩子的时候抛弃了你 You may. - Your parents abandoned you when you were a child.
这没有什么奇怪的 Nothing so strange about that,
人们可能迫于各种各样的原因 one might feel constrained to abandon a child
抛弃自己的孩子 for all sorts of reasons.
没有证据显示他们已经离世 There is no evidence to suggest they are dead.
你现在是这个世上最有名的人 You become one of the most famous people on the planet,
而他们却不与你联系 but they do not get in touch with you.
为什么，我问自己 "Why?" I asked myself.
有可能是良心受到了谴责 A guilty conscience, perhaps?
不过与你和解的好处 But the prospect of a reconciliation
明明应该胜过于心中的内疚 should be more powerful than any sense of guilt.
那你有什么合理的解释吗？ So what explanation did you come up with, then?
非常简单 A very simple one.
他们是嬉皮士 They were hippies.
大概是他们还像以前一样 Presumably they hold the same libertarian and progressive
是持有激进观点的自由意志论者 opinions today as they had then.
你却扞卫着 And you become the worldwide champion
完全与之相悖的言论 of ideas that run completely counter to theirs.
所以你认为他们之所以不来找我 So you're saying the reason they didn't reach out to me
是因为我们政治意见上出现了分歧 is a difference in political opinion?
我是说有勇气抛弃自己孩子的人 I'm saying that whoever had the courage to abandon a child
也能做到坚持不与他联系 might also find the strength to repudiate him.
教宗，飞机在停机坪上等我们了 Holy Father, the plane is on the tarmac, waiting for us.
已经准备好，可以随时启程。 Whenever you like, it's all ready.
我们不准备去危地马拉了 We aren't going to Guatemala after all.
受过圣胡安娜庇佑的人们 The miracle people of the Blessed
会很失落的。 Juana will be so disappointed.
是的，他们确实会失落。 Yes, they will.
但是一段时间后，他们会理解我。 But in time they'll understand.
小时候我一心想当红衣主教 All I ever wanted when I was a child was to be a cardinal.
您呢 教宗 What about you, Holy Father,
您小时候想做什么 what did you want to be when you were a child?
我只想当个孩子 I wanted to be a child.
那现在上帝在哪儿 And now where is God?
在威尼斯 In Venice.
在威尼斯？ In Venice?
上帝住在威尼斯的哪里 And where does he live there?
这个问题的答案需要我去寻找 That's something I have to find out.
-抱歉 -请让一下 - Sorry, sorry. - Please.
-先生，借光 -让我过去 - Excuse me, sir. - Please.
谢谢，谢谢 借光 Thank you. Thank you. Excuse me.
教宗 Holy Father...
我给您带来一样小东西 I got you something stupid,
不值几个钱 it has no real worth,
不过当我看到它的时候我就想起了您 but I saw it and I thought of you.
这儿写着你可以看清一百米开外的东西。 It says here you can see more than 100 metres.
教宗，餐厅的经理和全体员工 Holy Father, the manager of the restaurant and all the staff
想知道您是否愿意为他们做一下赐福祈祷 wonder if you'd be willing to give a benediction.
他们都在您身后等着 They're all behind you waiting.
如果您肯转过身去 If you were to turn around,
对他们来说，就是一个小小的奇迹。 for them it would be something of a minor miracle.
不 No.
那只会变成一个展览。 That would be an exhibition.
人们问她，谁是上帝 When they asked her: "Who is God?"
上帝是一条裂开的线 "God is a line that opens",
圣胡安娜如此回答道 replied the Blessed Juana,
那时她只有十四岁 she was just fourteen years old,
没有人能理解她到底想要表达什么 and no one understood what it was she was trying to say.
随后 And then,
孩子们问了 all the children asked the dying
濒死的圣胡安娜许多问题 Blessed Juana dozens of questions:
我们是生抑或死 Are we dead or are we alive?
疲倦抑或朝气蓬勃 Are we tired or are we vigorous?
健康抑或疾病缠身 Are we healthy or are we sick?
行善抑或作恶 Are we good or are we bad?
我们来日方长还是时日无多 Do we still have time or has it run out?
年轻还是衰老 Are we young or are we old?
纯洁还是肮脏 Are we clean or are we dirty?
愚蠢还是足智多谋 Are we fools or are we smart?
真实还是虚假 Are we true or are we false?
富有还是贫困 Are we rich or are we poor?
身份尊贵还是卑微 Are we kings or are we servants?
善良还是美丽 Are we good or are we beautiful?
热情还是无情 Are we warm or are we cold?
幸福还是晦暗 Are we happy or are we blind?
失落还是快乐 Are we disappointed or are we joyful?
迷茫还是意志坚定 Are we lost or are we found?
男人还是女人 Are we men or are we women?
都不重要 圣胡安娜这样回答道 "It doesn't matter", replied the Blessed Juana
那时她才18岁，卧在病榻上等待死亡降临 as she lay dying at the age of just eighteen.
她还补充了一些 And she added,
在弥留之际，她眼含热泪说道 on the verge of death, with tears in her eyes:
上帝是不被人所看见的存在 "God does not allow Himself to be seen."
上帝不会高声呼喊 God does not shout.
上帝不会喃喃低语 God does not whisper.
上帝不会写作 God does not write.
上帝不会听到声音 God does not hear.
上帝不会交谈 God does not chat.
上帝不会安抚我们 "God does not comfort us."
孩子们继续问道 And all the children asked her:
那上帝是谁 "Who is God?"
胡安娜回答道 And Juana replied:
上帝会微笑 "God smiles".
自此人们才明白她在说什么 And only then did everyone understand.
现在，我恳求你们每一个人 微笑 And now, I beg all of you, smile.
微笑 Smile.
这样才对，微笑 That's right, smile.
没事，我没事 It's nothing, it's nothing!
有一天我会死去 One day I will die...
而那时我也终于有机会 and I will finally...
去拥抱你们中的 be able to embrace you all.
每一个人 One by one.
是的 Yes.
我一定会这样做 I will.
我坚信我会这么做 I have faith that I will.
快叫医生 Call the doctor.